Kim Eriksen-Downs, supported by her husband Brendon, has been training trainers in indigenous safe practice for 13 years. She’s been doing it nationally. But she noticed that when she came home to Tuwharetoa she found that there were a lot of social, health, welfare and education practitioners who wanted to learn culturally safe te ao Māori practice. So with others, she set up a forum – a space where people could come together and learn. The difficulty was that it required her attention to keep the forum going, and it started to falter.